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Where to begin?!

Snape is *not* a triple agent. First, for that to be true, Dumbledore needs to be a moron. And then there's the entire scene outside Hagrid's hut - the deflecting of curses, the extreme reaction to being called a coward, and "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed." Snape just up and offered Harry exactly what he needed to know. Oh, Snape's still a petty bastard who carries around too much anger over his teen years, but he's paid for it, and will continue to do so. He paid most monumentally at 595. As

garlandgraves theorizes, that gaze that Snape gave Dumbledore in the tower was almost certainly a legilimency exchange, and the thing that Hagrid overheard Snape and Dumbledore arguing about was probably related to an agreement about what to do if this type of situation arose.

So much new Snape canon. The revelation about the prophesy was extremely interesting: this makes Snape a much worse fellow than some wish to believe. It also makes me even more curious about what on earth it was that Snape offered to prove to Dumbledore his sincerity. Will the portrait reveal this? Unfortunately, I think what Dumbledore began to say to Harry, about Snape not knowing whom the prophecy would affect, points strongly to the LOLLIPOPS theory, which I really hate. But it would fit into the power of love theme (which I also dislike, to a certain degree, because of the tendency towards triteness that it can breed; if it actually caused the reader to think about character and nobility, that might be one thing, but here it will undoubtedly stop with a superficial notion of romance).

Slughorn: I was really starting to like him until he became a plot device. The tricking of Dumbledore, the indulgence in (what can be harmless and sometimes helpful) Slytherin personality traits such as networking and a love of the finer things in life. He had real potential as a good guy Slytherin, something the books could use, since now it seems virtually every Slytherin shares Voldemort's theories on the importance of blood purity. One of the most starkly "English" qualities of the books is JKR's idea that ambition is a negative trait. She never shows it without twisting it to a bad end (Voldemort, Percy, Slughorn's unnecessarily exclusive form of networking; Slughorn's grasping and pompousness). If an American wrote the books, you could bet the defining qualities of the "bad" House would not include ambition (though it certainly would include blood prejudice, i.e. inequality).

BTW, was it just me, or did the whole idea of an HBP seem like it went nowhere? Really, what role did the book play in anything? Harry learned a series of nasty jinxes, and got better at potions. And oh yeah saved Ron from death. But... but where did this go? It was the TITLE. But it wasn't particularly important. Or maybe it will be in the next book?

Shipping: I'm okay with R/Hr provided it's not the focus of the next book (c'mon, she's been beating us over the head with this for years). And people who think Ron and Hermione have been replaced with pod people because they used their classmates to make each other jealous? Hello, that's just what Hermione was doing with Krum. They are so not above that. Really, this seemed likely to be the way it had to be, IMO. They both have a lot of pride, and needed the jealousy to get over it.

I'm okay with H/G, but am really quite happy it looks like it won't be part of book seven to any great degree. But I didn't like how it was done. The big kiss scene at the quiddich party? The goodbye scene? So cheese you could break out the nachos and have a party. The kiss scene was especially egregious and, IMO, not really realistic.

I'm even okay with Tonks/Remus, but it just seems so out of left field. Without a lot of screen time being put to the ship, it seems tacked on and trite. I'm also disappointed that all we get to see is her being mopey about Remus. She has so much more personality than that, and since Sirius didn't get much attention in this book, I would have really loved a rich h/c scene between Tonks and Harry regarding Sirius. Or between Remus and Harry. During Christmas, I wanted Harry to hug Remus so badly. *sigh* That scene needs a definite re-write.

I'm just not into Fleur/Bill. She irritates me to no end.

graculus inadvertently made me realize there's an upside to all the shipping: the slash world is now in chaos. Ah, the silver lining. (Don't act so disappointed. I'm a Slytherin, what did you think I'd do? Feel their pain?)

Wonderfulness:

* Neville, woobie extraordinare. His wand is cherry/unicorn; oh, the innocence! His painful relationship with Gran. He's there at the battle. Oh, the missing scenes!

* Luna. I continue to [heart] her and her awkward insights. She needs to be featured more in canon. Hopefully, both she and Neville will get a role in Seven.

* Filling in the gaps on Blaise Zabini.

* Dumbledore confiding in Harry, at long last. Well, everything about Dumbledore, really. Take that, writers of Evil!Dumbledore.

* Molly & Arthur's relationship. Mollywobbles! Arthur taking Harry seriously.

Disappointments:

* Snape is the DADA teacher, but we hardly get any scenes! Such lost opportunities.

* Draco is bound to be coming over to the good. *sigh*

* Remus hardly appearing in the book. I can't wait for the werewolf spy fanfic.

* Percy: oh, you know you love your family. Come home already.

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I felt sorry for Fleur, and sorry for how the Weasleys, as the in-laws, treated her. I guess it's because that touches an especially raw spot with me, but I really expected more of them.

I can see why, but, to me, Fleur's awful personality was a trump card. She's really irritating, and quite insensitive (when dealing with people other than Bill).

I'll admit that Fleur was downright obnoxious but I don't think the Weasely's were much better.

I mean they never attempted to *talk* to Fleur about he behavior, instead they made snide comments behind her back and were passive-aggressive about the whole thing.

Plus the 'throwing Tonks at Bill' thing was just tactless to the extreme, plus it was horribly thoughtless of Molly. Did she even bother to find out if Tonks was interested in Bill?

You'rr right; they reacted to Fleur in a very passive/aggressive way that did nothing to improve their relationship with her, and the foisting of (an obviously uninterested, hurting) Tonks on Bill was downright inconsiderate.

But I sympathize with anyone that has to share housespace with a Veela. It's like your roommate being a supermodel. Just irritating. And Fleur mocking Molly's music was not a class act.

Yes, but I think at that point (when she made fun of the music) she was pushed to her limits. I mean, Fluer's neither deaf nor stupid; I'm sure she picked up on the little slights. Ginny, etc. are kids, and kids make fun of each other, but I expected better from Molly - she should have discouraged their behavior!

Very interesting post, and I hope you're right about Snape,

penfold_x.

I was really disappointed with the way Molly and Ginny acted towards Fleur. Well, more by Ginny than Molly, because I know Molly is something of a cow at times and I expected such a behavior from her.

Treating your son's fiancée like that (who is a guest, who is the one moving to the UK and adapting herself to a foreign country, who has never shown anything but love for Bill) shows you were raised, at best, by a herd of trolls.

Also, as a friend wondered in my LJ, and she's French like me: "I am possibly way off on this but it could be one of those "You know what French women are famous for" episodes. Have I ever mentioned how much I hate people who say that?"

Then again, my paternal grandmother was pretty horrid to my mother, so I feel for Fleur and it's a sore sunject for me. My mother after a while simply decided to just ignore the existence of her mother-in-law and make no effort, and I think this may explain Fleur's focus on Bill. After all, he's the one she's marrying, she doesn't have to like his family.

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